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	<title>Comments on: Scammers warning update: when the scammer is the seller</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Michael Evans</title>
		<link>http://www.italiandragon.com/2008/02/27/scammers-warning-update-when-the-scammer-is-the-seller/#comment-284</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael

I experienced the same with Godaddy's back order with a name that was expiring on godaddy.

Even when you place a back order with them and the name is registered with them, the name goes up for auction at TDNAM. This doesn't make sense to me.  

I asked them what is the point of me backordering it if it will go to auction anyway.  They were silent when I asked this.

They did a courtesy of starting the auction at $10.00 (me) and I lost the auction because I forgot about the auction end time.  The way godaddy promoted the backordering to me was if you place a back order and no one else places a back order for that domain, then I automatically get the name.  Not true.

Looks like you did get the name you wanted in the end. Congrats</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael</p>
<p>I experienced the same with Godaddy&#8217;s back order with a name that was expiring on godaddy.</p>
<p>Even when you place a back order with them and the name is registered with them, the name goes up for auction at TDNAM. This doesn&#8217;t make sense to me.  </p>
<p>I asked them what is the point of me backordering it if it will go to auction anyway.  They were silent when I asked this.</p>
<p>They did a courtesy of starting the auction at $10.00 (me) and I lost the auction because I forgot about the auction end time.  The way godaddy promoted the backordering to me was if you place a back order and no one else places a back order for that domain, then I automatically get the name.  Not true.</p>
<p>Looks like you did get the name you wanted in the end. Congrats</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.italiandragon.com/2008/02/27/scammers-warning-update-when-the-scammer-is-the-seller/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Michael,

the kind of experience that you reported here is unfortunately quite common in this industry and the fact that you placed a backorder with GoDaddy is yes "irrelevant" because Godaddy could (but the results of its backorder service is something I would not define as brilliant...) catch that domain ONLY ONCE THE NAME was deleted by the .com Registry (Verisign) and in this case instead the domain did not even really start the deleting process since Network Solutions renews some domains just to auction them later at NameJet. There are a lot of people that are currently extremely unhappy about Network Solutions and what they do but I think that only Verisign or the ICANN could change the way things are going.
My real wonder is: do they want to change it?

Best regards,

Lorenzo (aka ItalianDragon)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Michael,</p>
<p>the kind of experience that you reported here is unfortunately quite common in this industry and the fact that you placed a backorder with GoDaddy is yes &#8220;irrelevant&#8221; because Godaddy could (but the results of its backorder service is something I would not define as brilliant&#8230;) catch that domain ONLY ONCE THE NAME was deleted by the .com Registry (Verisign) and in this case instead the domain did not even really start the deleting process since Network Solutions renews some domains just to auction them later at NameJet. There are a lot of people that are currently extremely unhappy about Network Solutions and what they do but I think that only Verisign or the ICANN could change the way things are going.<br />
My real wonder is: do they want to change it?</p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
<p>Lorenzo (aka ItalianDragon)</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Darius</title>
		<link>http://www.italiandragon.com/2008/02/27/scammers-warning-update-when-the-scammer-is-the-seller/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Darius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 17:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am the owner of a design consulting firm here in San Diego and have been waiting upon the domain name 'mconcepts.com' to come available. We are a small business trying to establish a name for ourselves.
We've been doing business using a non-profit domain name and with the domain expiring we did not see the need to enforce a domain copyright dispute.

After the domain was unpaid by the previous owner, network solutions took the luxury of putting the domain name up for an auction with their 'preferred' backordering provider 'NameJet' putting my backorder placed last year with Godaddy as irrelevant.

After placing a bid for the domain on namejet's site I realized that this was exactly the bait and hook tactic that they were using to encourage other users to place a bid.

They now have the domain in a 'private auction' without ever giving godaddy a chance to have backordered it.
It appears that the first person to backorder it is not given precedence over the business relationship between namejet and network solutions.

Various individuals at network solutions were rude about the situation and insisted that their business relationship with name jet was more important than the right to ownership over the domain name.

I don't feel it is right for me to have to bid on an auction that should never have taken place to begin with.

I've attached out brochure and a screenshot of the bid history of namejet's auction.
I don't have the kind of funds I need to enforce legal action. Please help!!

Contact at Network solutions:
John (employee code 070)
Network solutions ticket# 1-334955194

Contact at Godaddy:
justine (team name: quarrel)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am the owner of a design consulting firm here in San Diego and have been waiting upon the domain name &#8216;mconcepts.com&#8217; to come available. We are a small business trying to establish a name for ourselves.<br />
We&#8217;ve been doing business using a non-profit domain name and with the domain expiring we did not see the need to enforce a domain copyright dispute.</p>
<p>After the domain was unpaid by the previous owner, network solutions took the luxury of putting the domain name up for an auction with their &#8216;preferred&#8217; backordering provider &#8216;NameJet&#8217; putting my backorder placed last year with Godaddy as irrelevant.</p>
<p>After placing a bid for the domain on namejet&#8217;s site I realized that this was exactly the bait and hook tactic that they were using to encourage other users to place a bid.</p>
<p>They now have the domain in a &#8216;private auction&#8217; without ever giving godaddy a chance to have backordered it.<br />
It appears that the first person to backorder it is not given precedence over the business relationship between namejet and network solutions.</p>
<p>Various individuals at network solutions were rude about the situation and insisted that their business relationship with name jet was more important than the right to ownership over the domain name.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t feel it is right for me to have to bid on an auction that should never have taken place to begin with.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve attached out brochure and a screenshot of the bid history of namejet&#8217;s auction.<br />
I don&#8217;t have the kind of funds I need to enforce legal action. Please help!!</p>
<p>Contact at Network solutions:<br />
John (employee code 070)<br />
Network solutions ticket# 1-334955194</p>
<p>Contact at Godaddy:<br />
justine (team name: quarrel)</p>
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		<title>By: srisri24</title>
		<link>http://www.italiandragon.com/2008/02/27/scammers-warning-update-when-the-scammer-is-the-seller/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>srisri24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not planning to sell any of my LLLL.com less than $250. I will wait until the minimum price reaches that range. Then i will use escrow. Its $25 for $250 so worth it. split the fee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not planning to sell any of my LLLL.com less than $250. I will wait until the minimum price reaches that range. Then i will use escrow. Its $25 for $250 so worth it. split the fee.</p>
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		<title>By: Oskars Rumpeters</title>
		<link>http://www.italiandragon.com/2008/02/27/scammers-warning-update-when-the-scammer-is-the-seller/#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>Oskars Rumpeters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post! It's about time to make those suckers/scammers scared and LLLL owners informed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post! It&#8217;s about time to make those suckers/scammers scared and LLLL owners informed.</p>
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